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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 15:14 #461

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andyh wrote:
Also people who think bankers were not regulated have it ass backwards.

A better way of putting it is they were deregulated to a point where they were able to fuck it up. The Building Societies etc remained regulated at a point where they could not.
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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 15:46 #462

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Because we have for millenia made moral, aesthetic, religious demands on the world, looked upon it with blind desire, passion or fear, and abandoned ourselves to the bad habits of illogical thinking, this world has gradually become so marvelously variegated, frightful, meaningful, soulful, it has acquired color - but we have been the colorists: it is the human intellect that has made appearances appear and transported these erroneous basic conceptions into things.
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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 16:18 #463

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I haven't ignored any question. What i've been doing is real world shit...

I say money isn't necessary and you counter that with a question about people selling stuff... When there's no form of money?
Literal wtf :facepalm:

I give up trying tbh.
Believe what you want.
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 16:23 #464

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If money was gold/silver or whatever else of physical value then it is constrained by physical limits which bankers cannot dick with. It is the only regulation govt ever need to have in regards to money but now the crap has gone on for so long the game isn't so much as tilted as falling off the table altogether. A small handful have 50% of the entire planetary GDP.
It doesn't need regulating now so much as a complete slate clean, its a complete joke of a situation
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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 16:33 #465

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dubmeup wrote:
@ silva.
I haven't ignored any question. What i've been doing is real world shit...

I say money isn't necessary and you counter that with a question about people selling stuff... When there's no form of money?
Literal wtf :facepalm:

I give up trying tbh.
Believe what you want.

How the fuck do you expect to have any form of economy with no trade?
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 16:46 #466

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SilvaRizla wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
@ silva.

I haven't ignored any question. What i've been doing is real world shit...



I say money isn't necessary and you counter that with a question about people selling stuff... When there's no form of money?

Literal wtf :facepalm:



I give up trying tbh.

Believe what you want.



How the fuck do you expect to have any form of economy with no trade?


You're inferring there is no trade.
Tbh this is a topic for a hypothetical future situation with no present precedence and you're throwing present situation straws at it.
I've seen it thousands of times now and its still woefully stupid to watch
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:02 #467

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andyh wrote:
If money was gold/silver or whatever else of physical value then it is constrained by physical limits which bankers cannot dick with. It is the only regulation govt ever need to have in regards to money but now the crap has gone on for so long the game isn't so much as tilted as falling off the table altogether. A small handful have 50% of the entire planetary GDP.
It doesn't need regulating now so much as a complete slate clean, its a complete joke of a situation

So now you're advocating local trade only?

Or are we going to start posting our precious metal payments all over the globe with no instant transactions outside or local vicinity? No internet payments or anything like that? Bit of a queue getting your wages if you work for a large company. That much hard cash on site every pay day? I spots potential for abuse. Especially in this day and age> I can see counterfeiting being rife with 100% physical money as well.

You know the not being backed by/redeemable in gold argument as well? Complete bullshit.

People don't need gold or silver these days, what they gonna do with it? As for those who would still like to redeem their notes in gold, its quite easy. You just buy gold with your money. Not redeemable in gold. lol.

The system ALLOWS bankers to dick with money as you put it. REGULATION is needed to prevent it happening. DEREGULATION is the last thing we need.
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:04 #468

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andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
@ silva.

I haven't ignored any question. What i've been doing is real world shit...



I say money isn't necessary and you counter that with a question about people selling stuff... When there's no form of money?

Literal wtf :facepalm:



I give up trying tbh.

Believe what you want.



How the fuck do you expect to have any form of economy with no trade?


You're inferring there is no trade.
Tbh this is a topic for a hypothetical future situation with no present precedence and you're throwing present situation straws at it.
I've seen it thousands of times now and its still woefully stupid to watch

I've asked the same question numerous times no without answer. Without an answer I can only assume no trade. If I am wrong please correct me, please show me what I'm missing.

I trade petrol, you trade soap. You want petrol but I don't want soap. What do?
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Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:27 #469

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SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
If money was gold/silver or whatever else of physical value then it is constrained by physical limits which bankers cannot dick with. It is the only regulation govt ever need to have in regards to money but now the crap has gone on for so long the game isn't so much as tilted as falling off the table altogether. A small handful have 50% of the entire planetary GDP.

It doesn't need regulating now so much as a complete slate clean, its a complete joke of a situation



So now you're advocating local trade only?



Or are we going to start posting our precious metal payments all over the globe with no instant transactions outside or local vicinity? No internet payments or anything like that? Bit of a queue getting your wages if you work for a large company. That much hard cash on site every pay day? I spots potential for abuse. Especially in this day and age> I can see counterfeiting being rife with 100% physical money as well.



You know the not being backed by/redeemable in gold argument as well? Complete bullshit.



People don't need gold or silver these days, what they gonna do with it? As for those who would still like to redeem their notes in gold, its quite easy. You just buy gold with your money. Not redeemable in gold. lol.



The system ALLOWS bankers to dick with money as you put it. REGULATION is needed to prevent it happening. DEREGULATION is the last thing we need.


What you are talking about is the standard left wing authoritarian response.

If you want to end people dicking with money then you make it physical.

Yes it would turn the clock back but that is the price you must pay.

Again I don't see any govt ever enacting it any more than some more stupid regulations that got us in the shit to start with.
Gov works for the elite, it always has
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Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:28 #470

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SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
@ silva.



I haven't ignored any question. What i've been doing is real world shit...







I say money isn't necessary and you counter that with a question about people selling stuff... When there's no form of money?



Literal wtf :facepalm:







I give up trying tbh.



Believe what you want.







How the fuck do you expect to have any form of economy with no trade?





You're inferring there is no trade.

Tbh this is a topic for a hypothetical future situation with no present precedence and you're throwing present situation straws at it.

I've seen it thousands of times now and its still woefully stupid to watch



I've asked the same question numerous times no without answer. Without an answer I can only assume no trade. If I am wrong please correct me, please show me what I'm missing.



I trade petrol, you trade soap. You want petrol but I don't want soap. What do?


You've already been shown, its akin to the natives who couldn't see the big ships.
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Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:31 #471

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No it isn't, not even close. I'm asking for a straight answer that neither of you can give. Do you think I'm so stupid as to not know why you can't give the answer?
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Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:35 #472

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andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
If money was gold/silver or whatever else of physical value then it is constrained by physical limits which bankers cannot dick with. It is the only regulation govt ever need to have in regards to money but now the crap has gone on for so long the game isn't so much as tilted as falling off the table altogether. A small handful have 50% of the entire planetary GDP.

It doesn't need regulating now so much as a complete slate clean, its a complete joke of a situation



So now you're advocating local trade only?



Or are we going to start posting our precious metal payments all over the globe with no instant transactions outside or local vicinity? No internet payments or anything like that? Bit of a queue getting your wages if you work for a large company. That much hard cash on site every pay day? I spots potential for abuse. Especially in this day and age> I can see counterfeiting being rife with 100% physical money as well.



You know the not being backed by/redeemable in gold argument as well? Complete bullshit.



People don't need gold or silver these days, what they gonna do with it? As for those who would still like to redeem their notes in gold, its quite easy. You just buy gold with your money. Not redeemable in gold. lol.



The system ALLOWS bankers to dick with money as you put it. REGULATION is needed to prevent it happening. DEREGULATION is the last thing we need.


What you are talking about is the standard left wing authoritarian response.

If you want to end people dicking with money then you make it physical.

Yes it would turn the clock back but that is the price you must pay.

Again I don't see any govt ever enacting it any more than some more stupid regulations that got us in the shit to start with.
Gov works for the elite, it always has

:facepalm:

At least you admit that a physical currency only isn't compatible with a modern world, ignoring the other issues it brings of course.
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Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 17:39 #473

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Tell me, pray: how came gold to the highest value? Because it is uncommon, and unprofiting, and beaming, and soft in lustre; it always bestoweth itself.

Only as image of the highest virtue came gold to the highest value. Goldlike, beameth the glance of the bestower. Gold-lustre maketh peace between moon and sun.

Uncommon is the highest virtue, and unprofiting, beaming is it, and soft of lustre: a bestowing virtue is the highest virtue.

Verily, I divine you well, my disciples: ye strive like me for the bestowing virtue. What should ye have in common with cats and wolves?

It is your thirst to become sacrifices and gifts yourselves: and therefore have ye the thirst to accumulate all riches in your soul.

Insatiably striveth your soul for treasures and jewels, because your virtue is insatiable in desiring to bestow.

Ye constrain all things to flow towards you and into you, so that they shall flow back again out of your fountain as the gifts of your love.

Verily, an appropriator of all values must such bestowing. love become; but healthy and holy, call I this selfishness.
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Re:Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 18:08 #475

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SilvaRizla wrote:



:facepalm:



At least you admit that a physical currency only isn't compatible with a modern world, ignoring the other issues it brings of course.


This modern world as you call it was moulded by the screwed up situation to begin with.
How you expect to solve the problem with the same level of thinking that caused it in the first place is beyond me.
Its something I keep seeing in authoritarians.
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Re:Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 18:21 #476

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andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:



:facepalm:



At least you admit that a physical currency only isn't compatible with a modern world, ignoring the other issues it brings of course.


This modern world as you call it was moulded by the screwed up situation to begin with.
How you expect to solve the problem with the same level of thinking that caused it in the first place is beyond me.
Its something I keep seeing in authoritarians.

It sure as shit isn't gonna get solved using your level of thinking now is it? :killinme:

What you keep seeing andy, is not called authoritarianism, its called sense. :thumbup:
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 18:27 #477

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I trade petrol, you trade soap. You want petrol but I don't want soap. What do?

You stink :D

I trade deoderant and need a gallon of petrol ??

:P
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Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 18:30 #478

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scaltura wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
I trade petrol, you trade soap. You want petrol but I don't want soap. What do?

You stink :D

I trade deoderant and need a gallon of petrol ??

:P

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Re:Re:Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 18:37 #479

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SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:







:facepalm:







At least you admit that a physical currency only isn't compatible with a modern world, ignoring the other issues it brings of course.





This modern world as you call it was moulded by the screwed up situation to begin with.

How you expect to solve the problem with the same level of thinking that caused it in the first place is beyond me.

Its something I keep seeing in authoritarians.



It sure as shit isn't gonna get solved using your level of thinking now is it? :killinme:



What you keep seeing andy, is not called authoritarianism, its called sense. :thumbup:


What you have described (what little of it at least) is authoritarian.
You can say it isn't from now til doomsday which is precisely where we are heading regardless of meanderings and musings on here
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Re:Re:Re:Re:No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 15 Feb 2014 19:05 #480

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andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:







:facepalm:







At least you admit that a physical currency only isn't compatible with a modern world, ignoring the other issues it brings of course.





This modern world as you call it was moulded by the screwed up situation to begin with.

How you expect to solve the problem with the same level of thinking that caused it in the first place is beyond me.

Its something I keep seeing in authoritarians.



It sure as shit isn't gonna get solved using your level of thinking now is it? :killinme:



What you keep seeing andy, is not called authoritarianism, its called sense. :thumbup:


What you have described (what little of it at least) is authoritarian.
You can say it isn't from now til doomsday which is precisely where we are heading regardless of meanderings and musings on here

authoritarianism
Web definitions
dictatorship: a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.)

An elected banking system run by a board, answerable to the people? Doesn't quite fit authoritarian does it? :roll:
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