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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 19 Dec 2012 19:31 #501

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 19 Dec 2012 20:06 #502

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Ok, I'll reitterate, I'm stoned and just playing with sounds, but apparently (according to Babylon translate) "sans dit ou con et il cout" (say it quickly) translates as "without known as or idiot and it cost". :O
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 19 Dec 2012 21:37 #503

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I went through the whole thread... I wasn't aware about this whole story before just few days back. It's terrible that these things happen, but this uncertainty about what really happened is unnerving. And the media is fucked up, those videos really look like bad acting. And that photo with obama,by the gods, what heck is that?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 19 Dec 2012 22:03 #504

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I have not seen any evidence that the fathers are even testifying anywhere on Libor. I think that is bollocks. It seems to me there are better ways to turn a witness. Besides a man who has nothing left has nothing to lose.

Back on to the parents a lot of people handle grief by making jokes. People don't always act how they should. I think to say they appear to be acting is rather disrespectful. I mean firstly they are grieving and on TV neither things are really routine for most. I think most people would think about what to say to press in such a situation. I think knowing your lines exactly would be best way to avoid breaking down.

Being on TV is acting. Good acting seems real. The parents are not actors. I have seen no reason to think that this is a conspiracy.


By the way Gotham city is New York not new horn as I mistyped earlier or maybe my phone did that.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 19 Dec 2012 22:15 #505

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Parents of those dead children showing up so soon is what I find weird... It might be quite different in US, but in Finland they didn't show up in media that fast after Jokela and Kauhajoki shootings. It's crazy to think this schoolshooting "trend" happens also in here, behind gods back where nothing ever happens. Oh yea, it lead to more strict gun laws too.

Oh the comment I made about the parents looking somehow faken in those videos, its pure speculation, I don't mean to sound offending in any way. These things are tragic and horrible, but when something seems to be out of place... well, it's worth speculation at least.

And the media, they are known to fake news, it wouln't surprise me if there's more or less disinformation involved.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 00:29 #506

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I have not seen any evi­dence that the fathers are even tes­ti­fy­ing any­where on Libor. I think that is bol­locks. It seems to me there are bet­ter ways to turn a wit­ness. Besides a man who has noth­ing left has noth­ing to lose.

Even if it is not LIBOR/testifying connected, the fact that given the other coincidences, that both shooters have fathers who are very very big cheeses in the financial world and both have abilities that most do not..... I find interesting.


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With President Barack Obama endorsing sweeping gun restrictions in the wake of the school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, prices for handgun magazines are surging on EBay (EBAY) and semi-automatic rifles are sold out at many Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) locations
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 00:50 #507

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True if it is true. I have not seen the source of these claims just read it stated as fact by people which I try to avoid. After the school shootings I can think of, the parents of the victims/shooters often keep to themselves. Sometimes they speak out and campaign or write books etc. Other times they keep to themselves.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 02:07 #508

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Being on TV is act­ing. Good act­ing seems real. The par­ents are not actors. I have seen no rea­son to think that this is a con­spir­acy.


By the way Gotham city is New York not new horn as I mistyped ear­lier or maybe my phone did that.

OK mate.
I agree, TV is nothing but acting, making a big show of reality with the politicians.
Like Obama crying over what happened to look more human. Is he really human?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 04:39 #509

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So, funerals have already taken place. Maybe most if not all of them by now. Was it ever mentioned anywhere (you guys have a better research "finger on the pulse" than I do) that parents were allowed to give a physical, positive ID of their slain children?? I know, I know, fuck me for being cold and heartless but if it were my child murdered I'd damn sure want to be able to see a body! Especially given the climate of current events worldwide.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 05:39 #510

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 06:28 #511

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i-baster wrote:
True if it is true. I have not seen the source of these claims just read it stated as fact by people which I try to avoid. After the school shootings I can think of, the parents of the victims/shooters often keep to themselves. Sometimes they speak out and campaign or write books etc. Other times they keep to themselves.

So re the vid I posted showing the Linkedin profile page - do you think that's a fake?

Other times, btw, they have an appeal fund up & running on FB requesting donations within a few hours of the child's death - such as that chap in the vid & photos. (Set up for them by a relative). This was before they'd even discovered whether the child's body was in the school or one of the ones taken to hospital.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 07:24 #512

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So, funerals have already taken place. Maybe most if not all of them by now. Was it ever mentioned anywhere (you guys have a better research "finger on the pulse" than I do) that parents were allowed to give a physical, positive ID of their slain children?? I know, I know, fuck me for being cold and heartless but if it were my child murdered I'd damn sure want to be able to see a body! Especially given the climate of current events worldwide.

I never tried to research it, but did come across several non-MSM reports saying that the parents were never given the opportunity to look at their children. They were instead (and again, not wishing to sound insensitive, but I find this downright weird) shown photographs of them. They allegedly didn't allow people to look; told parents the bodies would be kept in the school until Sunday; transported them out of the school to a funeral parlour in the middle of Saturday night.

And just for the record, there are plenty of photo's & vid's out there of grieving parents which look absolutely legitimate. It's just the ones in the interviews that come across to me as completely fake.

There is no force in this universe that would have kept me from getting to my child. None. So as far as I'm concerned, these circumstances are more than suspicious.

The point raised is that the wounds look terrible, and each child had been shot 2 - 11 times. In the parents' position, you could advise me of the traumatic effect seeing this would have, and recommend not viewing my child. But I'd ignore you, for certain, and try stopping me.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 11:06 #513

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Gilly wrote:
I never tried to research it, but did come across several non-MSM reports saying that the parents were never given the opportunity to look at their children. They were instead (and again, not wishing to sound insensitive, but I find this downright weird) shown photographs of them.

Oh my, my, my.

I cannot stress enough just how beyond FUCKED UP that is, if it is in fact true. I don't know how things work up in the northeast but I guarangoddamntee ya that shit would NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVERRRR work in the south!! Suffice it to say, it would've gotten UUUGGGLY!! Real bad, real quick!! You got peoples' babies in there? Lying dead, murdered the way they were?? Ooooh Noooo, we ain't playing that shit, you're lettin me in there to lay eyes on mine or you're gonna know the reason why and may just need some medical attention afterwards if you drag your feet!! Good God, I can't imagine ANY parent alive takin that shit regardless of the situation. There would have been lawyers called and lines crossed and all kinds of crazy shit! I myself am not a parent, but I can certainly attest to the fact that had something like this happened to a child of mine, well, I've already said how it would've been handled. How the fuck a parent could take that laying down is beyond me.
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They allegedly didn't allow people to look; told parents the bodies would be kept in the school until Sunday; transported them out of the school to a funeral parlour in the middle of Saturday night.

Waaay off. Sounds like a real bad movie scene. I'd love for anybody to try and justify THAT bullshit!!
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And just for the record, there are plenty of photo's & vid's out there of grieving parents which look absolutely legitimate. It's just the ones in the interviews that come across to me as completely fake.

Yeah, there are enough holes in this story to make even your average everyday Joe perk up and ask "WTF??"
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There is no force in this universe that would have kept me from getting to my child. None. So as far as I'm concerned, these circumstances are more than suspicious.

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The point raised is that the wounds look terrible, and each child had been shot 2 - 11 times. In the parents' position, you could advise me of the traumatic effect seeing this would have, and recommend not viewing my child. But I'd ignore you, for certain, and try stopping me.

I couldn't see it any other way either, Gilly!!
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 13:16 #514

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Law enforcement sources said today that the bodies of the deceased have all been identified after being removed from the school in the middle of the night.
Over the course of the evening, parents were led into Sandy Brook Elementary school and asked to identify the bodies, sources said.


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*Just had to edit out my comments, because I realised that (of course) today's date's displayed at the top, but this was published 15/12.

If nobody else finds anything, I intend to look later on for anything more revealing which either confirms or refutes they were identified properly. No time now.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 13:29 #515

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Gilly wrote:
And finally today, the Mail prints this...

Law enforcement sources said today that the bodies of the deceased have all been identified after being removed from the school in the middle of the night.
Over the course of the evening, parents were led into Sandy Brook Elementary school and asked to identify the bodies, sources said.


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I'm a bit confused, because it implies in a vague kind of way that this happened last night (since Law enforcement sources apparently made this statement today - 3 days after the first funerals took place) but the bodies were reported (in MSM as well as other sources) to have been removed on Saturday night. :conf:

Deliberately woolly reporting, I think, and this supposed legal statement released in answer to the many people on the internet commenting on the strangeness of the lack of identifications.

And they wonder why there are so many "conspiracy nut-jobs" around these days. I guess we'll have to settle for vague and fuzzy until straight and explicit becomes fashionable. *not holding his breath*
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 13:34 #516

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Phem - sorry, I've edited the post above, because I got the dates of publishing wrong - it looks more legit than I first thought.

I want to look more deeply for info on this, to find out why so many people are up in arms around the internet, saying the parents were shown photo's of the kids to id them. Something that confirms or refutes it convincingly, but don't have time now.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 20 Dec 2012 13:57 #517

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There is no way of knowing with this crazy media just what the hell is going on tbh.
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There is no way of knowing with this crazy media just what the hell is going on tbh.
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